"Our discussion then, concludes that this passage which God's Holy Spirit has led us not to interpret according to its prima facie meaning, is actually a passage that Paul was never inspired to write. On the contrary, an overly zealous scribe after Paul's death must have added it as commentary into the margin of his Bible, and that a patriarchal and sometimes misogynistic church too eagerly incorporated it into its text. As such, we cannot appeal to this text either to silence women altogether (as it says), nor to keep them out of the pastorate."
So ends your examination of G. Fee's opinion of 1987.
I appreciate the significance of the above issue and concur with the nature of it's support. It rivals the Erasmus Comma Johanneum in 1 John 5 but without as much corroboration.
However your last statement seems to contradict 1 Tim 2:11-12.
"And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence." NKJV
I believe the pastorate requires teaching and authority over the congregation, doesn't it?
Legalistic churches revel in the Pauline ability to silence women given the feminist inroads. This leads to much discord and strife which does little for the Body of Christ and it's growth.
Just how would you explain the Fee opinion to a KJV only crowd?
Hey Jim: It was nice seeing you at SBL. I saw that you had mentioned my article on "The Charismatic gifts in the Acts of Paul" in the textual criticism group; the location of that article has moved http://actapauli.wordpress.com/2009/02/09/the-charistmatic-gifts-in-the-acts-of-paul-second-century-trends-by-p-w-dunn/ I mention significant circumstantial evidence for treating 1 Cor 14.34-35 as an interpolation. Cheers, Peter Dunn
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The Silenced Women of Corinth
"Our discussion then, concludes that this passage which God's Holy Spirit has led us not to interpret according to its prima facie meaning, is actually a passage that Paul was never inspired to write. On the contrary, an overly zealous scribe after Paul's death must have added it as commentary into the margin of his Bible, and that a patriarchal and sometimes misogynistic church too eagerly incorporated it into its text. As such, we cannot appeal to this text either to silence women altogether (as it says), nor to keep them out of the pastorate."
So ends your examination of G. Fee's opinion of 1987.
I appreciate the significance of the above issue and concur with the nature of it's support. It rivals the Erasmus Comma Johanneum in 1 John 5 but without as much corroboration.
However your last statement seems to contradict 1 Tim 2:11-12.
"And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence." NKJV
I believe the pastorate requires teaching and authority over the congregation, doesn't it?
How do you resolve this?
Regarding the issue of women's silence consider hesuchia may also signify stillness, i.e. desistance from bustle or language: KJV - quietness, silence. (Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)
Quietness is far different from silence IMHO.
Legalistic churches revel in the Pauline ability to silence women given the feminist inroads. This leads to much discord and strife which does little for the Body of Christ and it's growth.
Just how would you explain the Fee opinion to a KJV only crowd?
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Hey Jim: It was nice seeing you at SBL. I saw that you had mentioned my article on "The Charismatic gifts in the Acts of Paul" in the textual criticism group; the location of that article has moved http://actapauli.wordpress.com/2009/02/09/the-charistmatic-gifts-in-the-acts-of-paul-second-century-trends-by-p-w-dunn/
I mention significant circumstantial evidence for treating 1 Cor 14.34-35 as an interpolation. Cheers, Peter Dunn
Jim. I will probably post a summary of my argument and conclusions to the textual criticism group. Thanks for your interest, Peter
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